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Base Vegetto (Manga)
Topic Started: Aug 21 2017, 04:28 PM (1,787 Views)
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Another question I have to ask for the image training is that if it meant that's how strong Goku was, why show Freeza? Freeza hasn't been relevant since Trunks showed up. It's common sense Goku could beat him 13 years after the fact. Just seems odd.
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Eh? Why does base Vegetto need to be above blue? That's mental power scaling, especially since it's not even fully clear if Beerus is weaker than ssjb Vegetto.

I'm conservative with power levels, for me ssjg in BOG is twice as strong as a hypothetical ssj3 Vegetto and blue is twice red...for that to all fit with their levels means that blue is still 120 000 times base, even if I'm trying to keep it low. No way is base Vegetto more than 120 000 times base Goku and Vegeta. I don't buy that fusion being a multiplication of the fusees power because it's laughably ridiculous and if it was the case, Vegetto would not need ssj to stomp Boohan. he could sneeze him out of existence if his power is like 100 million times 100 million. Gohan pus Boo is not that strong.

Base Vegetto damaging Merged Zamasu is just showy and Zamasu was repressed or surprised or being a fool or whatever you have to headcanon to not end up at base Vegetto >>> ssjb Goku and Vegeta.
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Aug 22 2017, 12:27 AM
Eh? Why does base Vegetto need to be above blue? That's mental power scaling, especially since it's not even fully clear if Beerus is weaker than ssjb Vegetto.

I'm conservative with power levels, for me ssjg in BOG is twice as strong as a hypothetical ssj3 Vegetto and blue is twice red...for that to all fit with their levels means that blue is still 120 000 times base, even if I'm trying to keep it low. No way is base Vegetto more than 120 000 times base Goku and Vegeta. I don't buy that fusion being a multiplication of the fusees power because it's laughably ridiculous and if it was the case, Vegetto would not need ssj to stomp Boohan. he could sneeze him out of existence if his power is like 100 million times 100 million. Gohan pus Boo is not that strong.

Base Vegetto damaging Merged Zamasu is just showy and Zamasu was repressed or surprised or being a fool or whatever you have to headcanon to not end up at base Vegetto >>> ssjb Goku and Vegeta.
He did at least acknowledge that an hour would be enough to beat Vegetto, whereas he knew Goku and Vegeta were total trash.
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Aug 22 2017, 12:27 AM
Eh? Why does base Vegetto need to be above blue? That's mental power scaling, especially since it's not even fully clear if Beerus is weaker than ssjb Vegetto.

I'm conservative with power levels, for me ssjg in BOG is twice as strong as a hypothetical ssj3 Vegetto and blue is twice red...for that to all fit with their levels means that blue is still 120 000 times base, even if I'm trying to keep it low. No way is base Vegetto more than 120 000 times base Goku and Vegeta. I don't buy that fusion being a multiplication of the fusees power because it's laughably ridiculous and if it was the case, Vegetto would not need ssj to stomp Boohan. he could sneeze him out of existence if his power is like 100 million times 100 million. Gohan pus Boo is not that strong.

Base Vegetto damaging Merged Zamasu is just showy and Zamasu was repressed or surprised or being a fool or whatever you have to headcanon to not end up at base Vegetto >>> ssjb Goku and Vegeta.
He did at least acknowledge that an hour would be enough to beat Vegetto, whereas he knew Goku and Vegeta were total trash.
He knew Vegetto would transform, he didn't think base was all he had, he's seen Goku and Vegeta pop in and out of forms like they love to do, he knows Vegetto isn't showing all of his cards, just being a cheeky bugger in base.
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Aug 22 2017, 01:12 AM
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Aug 22 2017, 01:02 AM
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Aug 22 2017, 12:27 AM
Eh? Why does base Vegetto need to be above blue? That's mental power scaling, especially since it's not even fully clear if Beerus is weaker than ssjb Vegetto.

I'm conservative with power levels, for me ssjg in BOG is twice as strong as a hypothetical ssj3 Vegetto and blue is twice red...for that to all fit with their levels means that blue is still 120 000 times base, even if I'm trying to keep it low. No way is base Vegetto more than 120 000 times base Goku and Vegeta. I don't buy that fusion being a multiplication of the fusees power because it's laughably ridiculous and if it was the case, Vegetto would not need ssj to stomp Boohan. he could sneeze him out of existence if his power is like 100 million times 100 million. Gohan pus Boo is not that strong.

Base Vegetto damaging Merged Zamasu is just showy and Zamasu was repressed or surprised or being a fool or whatever you have to headcanon to not end up at base Vegetto >>> ssjb Goku and Vegeta.
He did at least acknowledge that an hour would be enough to beat Vegetto, whereas he knew Goku and Vegeta were total trash.
He knew Vegetto would transform, he didn't think base was all he had, he's seen Goku and Vegeta pop in and out of forms like they love to do, he knows Vegetto isn't showing all of his cards, just being a cheeky bugger in base.
He looked shocked when Vegetto went Blue, though.
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Aug 22 2017, 01:12 AM
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Aug 22 2017, 01:02 AM
superperfectnerd
Aug 22 2017, 12:27 AM
Eh? Why does base Vegetto need to be above blue? That's mental power scaling, especially since it's not even fully clear if Beerus is weaker than ssjb Vegetto.

I'm conservative with power levels, for me ssjg in BOG is twice as strong as a hypothetical ssj3 Vegetto and blue is twice red...for that to all fit with their levels means that blue is still 120 000 times base, even if I'm trying to keep it low. No way is base Vegetto more than 120 000 times base Goku and Vegeta. I don't buy that fusion being a multiplication of the fusees power because it's laughably ridiculous and if it was the case, Vegetto would not need ssj to stomp Boohan. he could sneeze him out of existence if his power is like 100 million times 100 million. Gohan pus Boo is not that strong.

Base Vegetto damaging Merged Zamasu is just showy and Zamasu was repressed or surprised or being a fool or whatever you have to headcanon to not end up at base Vegetto >>> ssjb Goku and Vegeta.
He did at least acknowledge that an hour would be enough to beat Vegetto, whereas he knew Goku and Vegeta were total trash.
He knew Vegetto would transform, he didn't think base was all he had, he's seen Goku and Vegeta pop in and out of forms like they love to do, he knows Vegetto isn't showing all of his cards, just being a cheeky bugger in base.
He didnt know anything, he only knew what Gowasu told him. He has none of Goku's memories so he didn't know about Vegito from the time they fought Buuhan.

General- I am curious though, if the gap between Goku and Vegeta is miniscule from Buu to Zamasu sagas, does this mean Vegito's base was all along stronger than Buuhan?
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The whole thing is stupid

Base Vegito should be > SSJB level, meaning his SSJ form is more then enough to belt Zamasu and kill him. Yet they make him go SSJB and not have Vegito literally outright one-shot him with a fart, and still bloody => Beerus when he should be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> x 1000 over Beerus
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